In this episode of the Cooperant Learning Podcast, we sat down with MtG enthusiast and choice and decision-making expert Dr. Matt Brodhead to discuss what teacher choice and adherence to interventions when challenging behavior is happening in the classroom. Centering the conversation around the research article “Delay Discounting and Teacher Decision‐Making of Behavioral Interventions,” we discuss and hypothesize why educators often prefer interventions that produce faster, “good-enough” improvements over strategies that may be more effective long-term but take longer to work. Dr. Brodhead explains delay discounting in practical terms, walks through how the Treatment Choice Questionnaire adapts classic discounting measures to classroom behavioral interventions, and explores what the findings suggest about social validity, feasibility, and BCBA collaboration in schools, especially when teachers are juggling limited training in classroom management, scarce resources, and constant outside pressure. We also make sure to touch base on Magic: The Gathering, D&D, and jam bands, because even behavior analysts need hobbies.

Guest Bio: Dr. Matt Brodhead
Dr. Matt Brodhead is an Associate Professor at Michigan State University and is widely recognized for his work in ethics, professionalism, and the applied practice of behavior analysis. His scholarship and applied interests include restraint and seclusion in public schools, choice and decision-making, and the social development of children with autism. He also serves as an Associate Editor for the Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis (JABA) and has received multiple honors for his contributions to the field, including the ABAI Outstanding Mentor Award and the APBA Excellence in Ethical Practice Award.

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